• Welcome to the new B.I.R.D. Forum. Please be sure to read the "New Member / New Registered ? Please Read" thread in the Coffee Shop. This contains some important information. To become a full member ( £5.90 a year ) simply click on your user name near the top on the right I hope you enjoy the new site ................ Jaws ( John )

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Paul Grant

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Hi all
I’m purchasing a blackbird in red 1997 model,26000 miles with full service history.
I’m looking at bar risers and scottoiler and Givi top box and thats it complete as the bike is totally standard which I prefer.
Any tips on the bar risers and is it worth fitting scottoiler.

Regards
Paul
 

Squag1

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Welcome Paul.
Just leave your sensitivity at/outside the door :D
 

Oldandbald

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Welcome Paul. I've got Jaws bar risers on mine. Easy to fit and no cables to mess about changing. Nicely made piece of kit. And don't mention the colour ever again.
 

Beardybiker

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Welcome to the forum Paul they’re a friendly lot and really useful when I’ve had questions with my new toy a 98 Darby-oil cooler lines, cam chain tensioner amongst others.
I find the standard bike very comfy particularly at higher speeds
I thought about the scottoiler but am still using chain lube spray which seems fine on short runs.
 

DEG5Y

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I had the JAWS risers on but swapped to vfr bars for a neater look. The scottoiler is probably the best addition to my bike!
 

Cougar377

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Welcome to the forum Paul they’re a friendly lot and really useful when I’ve had questions with my new toy a 98 Darby-oil cooler lines, cam chain tensioner amongst others.
I find the standard bike very comfy particularly at higher speeds
I thought about the scottoiler but am still using chain lube spray which seems fine on short runs.

:angryyell: Feck off....!!!!! :devil-flip: You won't find a more degenerate, twisted, anti-social bunch of sociopaths anywhere.....

Well worth the £5 to join. (y)
 

Jaws

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Hi all
I’m purchasing a blackbird in red 1997 model,26000 miles with full service history.
I’m looking at bar risers and scottoiler and Givi top box and thats it complete as the bike is totally standard which I prefer.
Any tips on the bar risers and is it worth fitting scottoiler.

Regards
Paul
Welcome to the nut house Paul..
You may experience a bit of front wheel wobble if you sit up when coming off the throttle and let the bars go.. rarely develops in to to tank slapper but can be unnerving

Do not worry as there is nothing wrong with the bike, it is usually caused by the back box believe it or not... Very common and well documented
 

Beardybiker

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:angryyell: Feck off....!!!!! :devil-flip: You won't find a more degenerate, twisted, anti-social bunch of sociopaths anywhere.....

Well worth the £5 to join. (y)
Thats what I like about this forum...
Post a polite comment stating the best in people and someone has to jump in and rip your throat out..
 

Cougar377

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Thats what I like about this forum...
Post a polite comment stating the best in people and someone has to jump in and rip your throat out..

It was a race between getting the best quality abuse anywhere on the interwebs......or AB banging on about cars again. :D
 
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noobie

Clueless in most things
Condition on birds is the key thing

Being a carby there are no worries with the loom fix. Mileage really isn't a problem on the bird. Bar risers are a good addition, Scottoiler. if it was fitted in the price then cool but I'm not sure I would buy one now doing less touring. Some people love them so have them fitted as a first thing type a thing.

The top box, if you are just top box and not pannier then a givi monorack or sw motech kit should help. If you use the monokey top plate, it will accept givi monokey and Kappa boxes. Depending on the helmets, 48 litre upwards works best for 2 lids. John mentions the wobble, this does not happen on all birds and when it does happen it tends to be when you take the hands off the bars when the top box is on. Normal for a bike designed to aero to around 180mph then put a brick on the back.

Sometimes however other things have been found to be the cause so in matter of cheapness start off with tyre pressure, always 42psi no matter what make or the load, then get the tyres balanced, headset bearings is worth checking next and of course tyres. This is a thing that is not as big as it sounds. My zzr 1400 had the same thing, the amount of bird owners who have toured for years shows how well they are sorted for two up and touring.

Beyond that
hid lights on dipped are a massive improvement and some are now moving onto led's
Fender extender
An aftermarket seat helps as some see the standard like cardboard
10/40w semi synth oil
linked brakes work okay, work better with braided hoses and some prefer to de link
led bulbs for the backlighting of the clocks improves readability
Jaws motorcycles pretty much can supply whatever you need at a fair price
and David Silver spares seems to be able to get Honda stuff when needed

Everything else will be covered by search, enjoy your bike.
 

andyBeaker

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It was a race between getting the best quality abuse anywhere on the interwebs......or AB banging on about cars again. :D


Did someone mention cars??

1959 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz
No other car captures the essence of the “jet age” quite like the 1959 Cadillac Eldorado, with styling that could have been copied from a fighter plane. While many believe that Cadillac’s tailfins were a product of the 1950s, their use actually dates back to GM’s 3/8-scale “Interceptor” design studies of the early 1940s, which were inspired by the radical P-38 Lightning fighter aircraft of World War II.

Available in Biarritz convertible and Seville hardtop form, along with the hand-built Brougham four-door hardtop, the Eldorado was Cadillac’s undisputed image leader for 1959. Standard Eldorado equipment included a heater, fog lamps, air-assisted suspension, a radio with a rear speaker, power windows, a six-way power front seat, power door locks and whitewall tires. Power was provided by the top Q-code 390 cubic inch V8, which thumped out 345 horsepower with a trio of two-barrel carburetors, teamed with a four-speed Hydra-Matic Drive automatic transmission.

Just four options were available for the Eldorado – air conditioning, cruise control, the Autronic-Eye automatic headlight dimmer and E-Z Eye glass, along with a no-cost bucket seat option for the Biarritz. Both the Biarritz convertible and the Seville hardtops carried a lofty base price of $7,401 when new, with only 1,320 examples of the Biarritz produced.


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