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What the ? First Davis and now Johnson

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David Davis quits and less than 24 hours later, Bozza Johnson drops his bat. WTF is going on and what am I coming home to? Assuming it doesn’t go completely pear-shaped and they actually let me back in, that is!
 

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David Davis quits and less than 24 hours later, Bozza Johnson drops his bat. WTF is going on and what am I coming home to? Assuming it doesn’t go completely pear-shaped and they actually let me back in, that is!
The whole thing is becoming a shambles, looks like Boris is going for leadership to me. God help us - I would love to have a pint with him, but in charge......not for me.

Regardless of however individuals voted, The one thing that was guaranteed with an exit vote was uncertainty.

Here it is.

Get used to it.

It's going to be here for some time.

One thing I really hate about Brits** is that they always have to find someone to blame. This time it is Mrs May. I honestly don't think anyone could have done a great job at negotating the exit.

I used to run negotiating skills workshops. Rule 1 was to identify your strong negotiating points and use them.

Anyone got any idea whatsoever what Britain's strong negotiating points are??


No, didn't think so.......

** there are quite a few others as well......
 

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Whether Brexit is right or wrong, it seems to me that if the government pulled together to deliver the democratic result of the referendum, we'd be in a better position now, instead of internal bickering, finger pointing & alleged underhand deals with big business.
 

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The whole thing is becoming a shambles, looks like Boris is going for leadership to me. God help us - I would love to have a pint with him, but in charge......not for me.

Regardless of however individuals voted, The one thing that was guaranteed with an exit vote was uncertainty.

Here it is.

Get used to it.

It's going to be here for some time.

One thing I really hate about Brits** is that they always have to find someone to blame. This time it is Mrs May. I honestly don't think anyone could have done a great job at negotating the exit.

I used to run negotiating skills workshops. Rule 1 was to identify your strong negotiating points and use them.

Anyone got any idea whatsoever what Britain's strong negotiating points are??


No, didn't think so.......

** there are quite a few others as well......

I'll give you one! They export a feckin sight more to us than we do to them. The problem is the plebs did not vote the way the politicians wanted or expected. Now the majority of the politicians are doing their best to exit as little as possible in the hope they can hang on to the "jobs for the boys" in the EU parliament. I use the word "parliament" in the loosest possible sense. When they brought up the importance of the Irish border being important to peace they should have been told to fuck off. Sinn Fein turned to peace because they finally realised they were not going to win what they wanted by terrorism. Bits and pieces on the border would make no difference. The real hard line nutters are determined to carry on fighting anyway.
 

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Bunch of pathetic children..
I have been a believer in boris the buffoon, but now ? Sod him
 

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I don’t think Bozza is going for leadership, I think that’s already done and dusted. Being Home Secretary is bad enough but the thought of Sajid Javid being our next pm absolutely terrifies me.
 

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I f*cking despair at the shambles we are currently calling a Government. I've yet to see a more self centred, self obsessed, egotistical and downright arrogant bunch of arseholes....scheming and bickering, in the manner of modern day Nero's, right at the point when we should be presenting a united front, under strong steady leadership. I'm not a fan of May but the poor cow must feel like Julius Caesar on the Ides of March.

Davis I can understand. He couldn't put his heart into it, so walked. BoJo, on the otherhand, is gutless. He's a human pendulum, with no firm stance on anything for more than five minutes. He's got the kind of tact that would make Trump wince and the sort of backbone that only a jellyfish would recognise.

The problem is that there is still far too many people in the present Goverment and in Parliament as a whole (on both sides of Brexit) who have no grasp of what one major part of the Brexit vote actually meant....i.e. that many of us are completely f*cked off with politicians who don't listen but do believe that they know best for us.

The vote to Brexit was a clear message that it's not on any more.

Unfortunately we have inherited the same problem all over again, only this time it's with the Remainers and Leavers within the Goverment....too many politicians who are too wrapped up in their self obsessed stance on Brexit to listen to what the bulk of the UK public now want - strong, steady leadership, a united Government and as smooth a transition as possible, with the best achievable deal for the UK.

The EU negotiators must be laughing their cocks off at this, meanwhile I thank God we don't share a border with Putin. After a bit of political agitation, there would no doubt be tanks rolling over the British countryside and up the Mall as part of a "peace keeping force", sent in to re-establish "law and order" and to install a suitably Russian-friendly puppet as PM.
 

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The EU negotiators must be laughing their cocks off at this, meanwhile I thank God we don't share a border with Putin. After a bit of political agitation, there would no doubt be tanks rolling over the British countryside and up the Mall as part of a "peace keeping force", sent in to re-establish "law and order" and to install a suitably Russian-friendly puppet as PM.

I actually wonder if we might be better off if we did share a border with that headcase Putin because at least our borders would be a lot more secure than they are now. Also, those twats that like to dance on the roofs of taxis and ambulances cos Engerluuuuund won a footy match would have been executed by now.
 

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I am hacked off with this country in that the population are always quick to criticise and be negative but Seldom do I hear anything constructive or suggestions about, in this case, who should be leading the country or how Brexit should be handled.

Look at the options. Are they more palatable? Will May's government collapsing move us forward? Exactly how is the UK in a strong position in the Brexit negotiation?

Don't think that I think I have the answers. I don't. But I think I appreciate (not understand) how difficult Brexit is.

Maybe it all reminds me too much of being at work where the negativity and lack of positive contributions by many simply ground me down on a daily basis.
 

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I actually wonder if we might be better off if we did share a border with that headcase Putin because at least our borders would be a lot more secure than they are now. Also, those twats that like to dance on the roofs of taxis and ambulances cos Engerluuuuund won a footy match would have been executed by now.

Good point. there's nothing like having a militaristic dictator with an ego the size of the Good Year Blimp to ramp up your GDP spending on defence.
I wonder if Mexico are in the market for an aircraft carrier...? We'll have one going spare, shortly. ;)

As for those "football" fans.....I'm struggling to grasp why the taxi dancers are being done for criminal damage but not the ambulance surfers... :thinking:

Good to see Millwall FC fans have put up a Just Giving page to collect for the repair of the car. They're asking for £5k and I think it's up to £10k. Maybe they're not all scum....
 
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