Who should pay?

derek kelly · 30/1/18

A friend of ours was estranged from her father for about thirty years, he disowned her our friend Shona received a phone call from a care home in Liverpool stating "get over here quick, your dad is dying
He died an hour after shona got there, the home (grotty shit hole) gave her his paperwork & a bill for £10,000, she has discovered that he adopted four children, when she contacted them their response was "is there any money?"
Should she have to pay for the care home & his funeral?

Quiney · 30/1/18

Keyboard lawyers Derek - loads of different answers, perhaps none of them correct.
Think they need professional legal advice on this one. IMO

Just as an after thought, how did the bill from the home rack-up to 10k. Care/nursing homes will chase if even one months fees are missed.

and a second thought, if they were estranged, where did the home get her phone number?

jeffa · 30/1/18

No, she had no contract with the care home

Squag1 · 30/1/18

jeffa said:
No, she had no contract with the care home

Agree

Who brought him there?
Who signed him in and next of kin??

derek kelly · 30/1/18

He gave her name as next of kin, no idea who put him in the care home, Shona says the care home is a real dodgy looking place & filthy.

slim63 · 30/1/18

Two things that come to mind, First she never signed as responsible for his care or for any fees so that's not her responsibility & I cant see any court in the land seeing it differently given the circumstances

Second if someone dies without enough money to cover the funeral there is a government grant available, I believe this is £2000 I wouldn't advise she applies though as that could seem as if she is taking on responsibility for it & therefore other costs

As ever the best advice is above , seek proper legal advice or at the very least talk to the CAB

andyBeaker · 30/1/18

Agree CAB first.

Then tell them to eff off.

But not necessarily in that order.

noobie · 31/1/18

Tell them to eff off

If he was in there long enough to run up a £10k bill then the home would have had contact for a while with a next of kin. The home now has to chase up his estate and probably through his executor. If he had no assets and was having his care provided by the local council/social services then the home should chase them up. At this point, nothing to do with her

Quiney · 31/1/18

At any care home £10k amounts to 3 months worth. Having dealt with (and still am) this type of home, there is no way they would allow that amount to rack-up and would be in touch with everyone they could to get 'their dues'

andyBeaker · 2/2/18

derek kelly said:
A friend of ours was estranged from her father for about thirty years, he disowned her our friend Shona received a phone call from a care home in Liverpool stating "get over here quick, your dad is dying
He died an hour after shona got there, the home (grotty shit hole) gave her his paperwork & a bill for £10,000, she has discovered that he adopted four children, when she contacted them their response was "is there any money?"
Should she have to pay for the care home & his funeral?

I bumped into someone yesterday who works in this sector - while not to be totally replied on, their advice was 'they are trying it on'.

As I say, don't rely on it as neither I nor they have access to the specific circumstances during our chat.

As a rule of thumb, the resident only is liable, if they can't pay then the state pays unless specific other arrangements have been made.

derek kelly · 7/2/18

andybirdless said:
I bumped into someone yesterday who works in this sector - while not to be totally replied on, their advice was 'they are trying it on'.

As I say, don't rely on it as neither I nor they have access to the specific circumstances during our chat.

As a rule of thumb, the resident only is liable, if they can't pay then the state pays unless specific other arrangements have been made.

Much as I thought.

Who should pay?

derek kelly

The Deli lama

Quiney

Registered User

jeffa

Been there, and had one

Squag1

Can't remember....

derek kelly

The Deli lama

slim63

Never surrender

andyBeaker

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noobie

Clueless in most things

Quiney

Registered User

andyBeaker

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derek kelly

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