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Road Crash Investigation Branch

Cougar377

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It has been suggested that we should set up a UK road crash investigation branch operated along similar lines to the Air Accident Investigation branch, Maritime and Rail Crash Investigation units as well.

I can see some merit in the idea, but I need to be convinced

http://www.roadsafe.com/callforaukaccidentinvestigationbranch

If I had my time again I'd love to work in Air Accident Investigation. It makes Sherlock Holmes look like a total amateur.

Trouble is....too many RTA's are the result of stupidity and that's a difficult one to prove scientifically...!
 

Centaur

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Going against Darwin! Some people are better out of the gene pool. Stupidity cannot be designed out. Remember Murphy's Law. :D
 

noobie

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Perhaps I'm seeing this the wrong way but it seems a way to remove more cops from the force and push it out to a more expensive private sector that would have changing standards based on who got the contract. If they are suggesting it be a separate public funded organisation then I would ask how they will fund it if they can't fund cops doing it now?
 

Centaur

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To be realistic the AIB deals with maybe one air crash a month. It would take a hell of a lot more peeps to deal with car crashes. All organisations suffer from empire building. Look at the EU. Do we want to create another monster. Do you think the police budget would shrink if this task was moved from them? Not a chance!
 

andyBeaker

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It's an interesting thought. Personally I would prefer to see more regulation around young and inexperienced drivers which is where a large element of road problems happen. In Oz and NZ there are restrictions on the number and age of passengers covered as well as hours that new and young drivers can be on the road. Also much lower breath alcohol maximum (I think it is 25% of the 'adult limit').

All seems eminently sensible to me. Of course no law matters to a lot of the scrotes who just do what they want with no thought of the consequences anyway.
 

Centaur

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It's an interesting thought. Personally I would prefer to see more regulation around young and inexperienced drivers which is where a large element of road problems happen. In Oz and NZ there are restrictions on the number and age of passengers covered as well as hours that new and young drivers can be on the road. Also much lower breath alcohol maximum (I think it is 25% of the 'adult limit').

All seems eminently sensible to me. Of course no law matters to a lot of the scrotes who just do what they want with no thought of the consequences anyway.

Norn Irn has restrictions on new drivers who have passed their test. They have to wear identifying plates on their car and are restricted in speed and number of young passengers, I believe. We are not complete dinosaurs.
 

madlandrover

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To be realistic the AIB deals with maybe one air crash a month. It would take a hell of a lot more peeps to deal with car crashes.

Yes and no - sadly the AAIB deal with 1-2 fatals a month, and a lot of bent metal/less seriously injured. Each monthly report contains 10-15 incidents, with the most serious reports being spread out over time as investigative resources allow. They do that with a relatively small investigating staff, so yes it would take a significantly bigger department to deal with car crashes from small to large, although helped by police forces already having collision investigators, which we don't really have on the aviation side.
 
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