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andyBeaker

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Despite the fact that happilly the fur trade is more or less extinct it seems that similar ethics do not apply when a designer label is attached to an article.

I am sure the skin looked better on the alligator. In fact I would be happy for the idiot who bought it to be locked in a room with an alligator for five minutes to discuss who has the best skin.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44463624
 

derek kelly

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The crocodiles/Alligators are still alive when they are cut open to make these bags etc
 

Pow-Lo

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Well, thing is, ‘gators and crocs are not endangered species. At least the skins don’t, or shouldn’t, come from wild animals anyway. They are ‘responsibly farmed’ for their skins. I have some watch straps that are ‘gator skin and I have a couple of Teju lizard skin straps, too.

Ok, I can imagine a few people getting arsey over this but let me put it another way; cows have just as much right to live as any of the exotic creatures slaughtered for their skins. Who on here doesn’t wear leather shoes, hold their keks up with a leather belt, carry cards in a leather wallet, etc. ? So unless you’re a vegan........................
 

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Ok, I can imagine a few people getting arsey over this but let me put it another way; cows have just as much right to live as any of the exotic creatures slaughtered for their skins. Who on here doesn’t wear leather shoes, hold their keks up with a leather belt, carry cards in a leather wallet, etc. ? So unless you’re a vegan........................
It's a fair point.

My take is that I eat meat and that isn't going to change. Leather is a side product of what I eat.

Not totally comfortable with that, but is is how I rationalise it.

Ps you have been told many times that wearing a watch is soooooo last century.
 

Pow-Lo

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It is the cruelty involved that should be stopped
I started eating wagu steaks out here for that reason. The cows are massaged, given classical music to listen to, live in temperature and humidity-controlled environments and are even given red wine (I shit you not!). However, it soon got cost prohibitive and I wasn't that impressed with the taste either. Grass fed rib-eye is better at 20% of the price.
 

Pow-Lo

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It's a fair point.

My take is that I eat meat and that isn't going to change. Leather is a side product of what I eat.

Not totally comfortable with that, but is is how I rationalise it.

Ps you have been told many times that wearing a watch is soooooo last century.

Well, we do tend to rationalise our preferences to suit our own beliefs. For example, my dear old mum thinks that by being a vegetablist she's going to save all the tigers and gorillas that are nearing extinction. I've tried every explanation but she's having none of it. I even gave her a copy of that excellent report by a professor at Nottingham University "Vegetarians should be tied to a tree and force fed lard" (again, I shit you not. It's a brilliant paper that blows every argument that the militant vegetablists have launched right out of the water).

As for wearing a watch, no, you have never said that to me. All you've said on that subject is that people who wear Rolex are dickheads, or something along those lines. In one episode of season 2 of The Grand Tour, Jeremy Clarkson said "...I’ll wear a Rolex, which is the watch of choice for all the world’s arses". Well if he said it, it must be true. I actually like wearing a watch, it's very convenient for telling the time and far easier than digging my poxy phone out of my pocket. I draw the line at smart watches though, never in a million years.
 

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Vegetarian. The village idiot who could neither hunt nor light a fire.
 

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Well, we do tend to rationalise our preferences to suit our own beliefs. For example, my dear old mum thinks that by being a vegetablist she's going to save all the tigers and gorillas that are nearing extinction. I've tried every explanation but she's having none of it. I even gave her a copy of that excellent report by a professor at Nottingham University "Vegetarians should be tied to a tree and force fed lard" (again, I shit you not. It's a brilliant paper that blows every argument that the militant vegetablists have launched right out of the water).

As for wearing a watch, no, you have never said that to me. All you've said on that subject is that people who wear Rolex are dickheads, or something along those lines. In one episode of season 2 of The Grand Tour, Jeremy Clarkson said "...I’ll wear a Rolex, which is the watch of choice for all the world’s arses". Well if he said it, it must be true. I actually like wearing a watch, it's very convenient for telling the time and far easier than digging my poxy phone out of my pocket. I draw the line at smart watches though, never in a million years.

In that case I'm off to buy a smart watch
 

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I started eating wagu steaks out here for that reason. The cows are massaged, given classical music to listen to, live in temperature and humidity-controlled environments and are even given red wine (I shit you not!). However, it soon got cost prohibitive and I wasn't that impressed with the taste either. Grass fed rib-eye is better at 20% of the price.

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