mick the knife
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This thread is now going to prolly stir up a hornets nest, but I feel it needs to be said.
Some of you know I've been having problems with the brakes on the bike locking on solid, front and rear.
Several peeps have looked at the system and on the face of it can find no reason for the faliure
I finally took the bike back to the Honda dealer from wence it came to get Hondas involvement.
They had the bike for a day last week and went through all the obvious checks to try to discover the fault. Un-happy with the results Honda (through the dealer) recalled the bike for futher investigation.
The PCV valve was a prime candidate, but passed all the pressure tests and internal inspection
The front second master was also stripped, again no fault.
The disc's were then inspected for float and wear and the fault then became apparent. This is a very common fault on many Hondas but rare on the BB, AFTER MARKET PADS !!!!
The after market pads are too hard for Hondas disc's and produce an un-even wear pattern to develop. The ossilation this produce re-acts badly with the front secondary cylinder and pumps up and pressurise the whole system, as it's designed for smooth operation. This was replecated on the rolling road where the very slight ossilation can be felt but disguised from road rumble. Once the system was getting hot the bike was then put out to road riding and the mechanic had the bike snaking all over the road with the back brake locking from front brake lever only.
Honda would say the only time they would reccommend after market pads is to go with after market disc's
All the investigation work, loan bikes and other costs have been footed by Honda under their special 5yr dealer warrenty, however I do pick up the cost of putting the damage right caused by me.
They feel the front cylinder is salvagable but the disc's and pads are fooked so the OEM's are now setting me back ?280. If the second cylinder turns out to be fooked, thats another couple of hundred sobs.
There is an old saying "You sure do live and learn"
Some of you know I've been having problems with the brakes on the bike locking on solid, front and rear.
Several peeps have looked at the system and on the face of it can find no reason for the faliure
I finally took the bike back to the Honda dealer from wence it came to get Hondas involvement.
They had the bike for a day last week and went through all the obvious checks to try to discover the fault. Un-happy with the results Honda (through the dealer) recalled the bike for futher investigation.
The PCV valve was a prime candidate, but passed all the pressure tests and internal inspection
The front second master was also stripped, again no fault.
The disc's were then inspected for float and wear and the fault then became apparent. This is a very common fault on many Hondas but rare on the BB, AFTER MARKET PADS !!!!
The after market pads are too hard for Hondas disc's and produce an un-even wear pattern to develop. The ossilation this produce re-acts badly with the front secondary cylinder and pumps up and pressurise the whole system, as it's designed for smooth operation. This was replecated on the rolling road where the very slight ossilation can be felt but disguised from road rumble. Once the system was getting hot the bike was then put out to road riding and the mechanic had the bike snaking all over the road with the back brake locking from front brake lever only.
Honda would say the only time they would reccommend after market pads is to go with after market disc's
All the investigation work, loan bikes and other costs have been footed by Honda under their special 5yr dealer warrenty, however I do pick up the cost of putting the damage right caused by me.
They feel the front cylinder is salvagable but the disc's and pads are fooked so the OEM's are now setting me back ?280. If the second cylinder turns out to be fooked, thats another couple of hundred sobs.
There is an old saying "You sure do live and learn"